{"id":65015,"date":"2026-01-22T10:34:36","date_gmt":"2026-01-22T15:34:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/?p=65015"},"modified":"2026-02-10T09:12:01","modified_gmt":"2026-02-10T14:12:01","slug":"murstein-grandma-podcast","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/murstein-grandma-podcast\/","title":{"rendered":"Alum\u2019s Podcast Partner Is Old Enough to Be \u2026 Her Grandmother!"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-large-font-size\">Teaming up with her mom\u2019s mom, Kim Murstein \u201918 mines a 50-year age gap for wisdom, humor, and heart<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>By <strong>Joe Wilensky<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-drop-cap\">During a recent episode of their popular podcast, Kim Murstein \u201918 and her 83-year-old maternal grandmother debate how much life advice family members should give each other.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-media-text alignwide has-media-on-the-right is-stacked-on-mobile\"><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\">\n<p>\u201cI hesitate now if I\u2019m going to criticize you on certain things,\u201d says her grandma, Gail Rudnick.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cSometimes I zip my mouth, because I decided: You know what? You\u2019re almost 30, and you have to make your own mistakes and learn from them, just like all of us.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cWeird,\u201d Murstein replies, with mock surprise. \u201cI don\u2019t remember you holding back on anything.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/Excuse_My_Grandma_podcast_logo3-A.jpg\" alt=\"podcast logo for \u201cExcuse My Grandma\u201d\" class=\"wp-image-65010 size-full\" srcset=\"https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/Excuse_My_Grandma_podcast_logo3-A.jpg 500w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/Excuse_My_Grandma_podcast_logo3-A-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/Excuse_My_Grandma_podcast_logo3-A-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/Excuse_My_Grandma_podcast_logo3-A-316x316.jpg 316w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/Excuse_My_Grandma_podcast_logo3-A-400x400.jpg 400w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/Excuse_My_Grandma_podcast_logo3-A-200x200.jpg 200w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/Excuse_My_Grandma_podcast_logo3-A-100x100.jpg 100w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cWell, you don\u2019t know,\u201d counters Rudnick, \u201cbecause I probably would have said a few things that you didn\u2019t like.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The banter is typical for the podcast, titled <a href=\"https:\/\/www.excusemygrandma.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>Excuse My Grandma<\/em><\/a>, which the two have hosted weekly for five years.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The project has even blossomed into a multiplatform brand: it has corporate partnerships, more than 1.3 million downloads, and some 675,000 followers <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/excusemygrandma\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">on Instagram<\/a> (plus nearly 500,000 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/@excusemygrandma\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">on TikTok<\/a>).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote alignwide is-style-solid-color\"><blockquote><p>The podcast has more than 1.3 million downloads, with 675,000 followers on Instagram and nearly 500,000 on TikTok.<\/p><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>And in February 2026, the pair debuted a weekly column and video in the <em>New York Post<\/em>\u00a0titled \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/nypost.com\/2026\/02\/09\/lifestyle\/grandma-gail-rudnick-and-kimberly-murstein-want-to-fix-your-messy-life-meet-the-posts-brand-new-advice-columnists\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Excuse My Advice<\/a>.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Launched during the pandemic, <em>Excuse My Grandma<\/em> initially focused on dating advice and fashion tips from \u201cGrandma Gail\u201d\u2014as Murstein looked for matches online and discovered vintage sartorial gems in Rudnick\u2019s closet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The two have expanded to discussing etiquette, career choices, family relationships, entertainment news, and NYC nostalgia\u2014always through their affectionate multigenerational repartee.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed alignwide is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Video: Excuse My Grandma Podcast Sizzle Reel\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/YuGg1dG-Jt0?feature=oembed&#038;controls=0\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:10px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>They also interview guests, who have included make-up maven Bobbi Brown, comedian Jared Freid, and \u201cGolden Bachelorette\u201d Joan Vassos.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cBrutally honest wisdom is at the core of <em>Excuse My Grandma<\/em>, in which the pair dig into dating topics old and new (from evergreen woes like how to make a long-distance relationship work to more modern phenomena like ghosting and sexting),\u201d the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2023\/09\/05\/arts\/podcasts-dating-love-relationships.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>New York Times<\/em> wrote<\/a> in 2023.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThey also answer questions from listeners and try to find a middle ground between their twentysomething and eightysomething approaches.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>Brutally honest wisdom is at the core of <em>Excuse My Grandma<\/em>, in which the pair dig into dating topics old and new.<\/p>\n<cite>The<strong> <em>New York Times<\/em><\/strong><\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Murstein has always been close with Rudnick, who lived nearby in Manhattan while she was growing up.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cEven now, we talk every single day,\u201d Murstein says. \u201cShe has always been like my best friend, and someone who offers me guidance.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(Murstein\u2019s paternal grandmother is a fellow Cornellian, ILR alum Aileen Glanternik Murstein \u201962.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"576\" src=\"https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/000030560021-A-1024x576.jpg\" alt=\"Kim Murstein \u201918 in a taxi in NYC\" class=\"wp-image-65009\" srcset=\"https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/000030560021-A-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/000030560021-A-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/000030560021-A-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/000030560021-A-1536x864.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/000030560021-A-800x450.jpg 800w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/000030560021-A-608x342.jpg 608w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/000030560021-A-304x171.jpg 304w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/000030560021-A-152x85.jpg 152w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/000030560021-A-1184x666.jpg 1184w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/000030560021-A-592x333.jpg 592w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/000030560021-A-296x166.jpg 296w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/000030560021-A-1264x711.jpg 1264w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/000030560021-A-632x356.jpg 632w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/000030560021-A-316x178.jpg 316w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/000030560021-A-400x225.jpg 400w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/000030560021-A-200x113.jpg 200w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/000030560021-A-100x56.jpg 100w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/000030560021-A.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Murstein is based in NYC, but she and her grandma also record in Palm Beach, FL.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>In 2021, the year after the pandemic hit, Murstein decamped from NYC and lived with her maternal grandparents in Palm Beach, FL, for six months.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It was there that Rudnick saw, daily and up close, what it was like for Murstein to date in the digital age; their humorous conversations and differing attitudes about relationships gave rise to the podcast.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>We talk every single day. She has always been like my best friend, and someone who offers me guidance.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Murstein, who double majored in English and performing and media arts on the Hill, always had an interest in pop culture, classic movie musicals, upscale fashion, and reality TV: her senior thesis in Arts &amp; Sciences explored the rise of \u201cKeeping Up With the Kardashians\u201d and the \u201cReal Housewives\u201d franchises.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>After interning at NBC, she then spent four years as a production assistant, producer, and reporter at Cheddar, the media site.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On <em>Excuse My Grandma<\/em>, Murstein keeps her conversations with Rudnick unscripted and spontaneous. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-media-text alignwide has-media-on-the-right is-stacked-on-mobile\"><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\">\n<p>They\u2019ve added segments on TV and celebrities, and partnered with brands like L\u2019Or\u00e9al, Dove, and CoverGirl. Murstein occasionally goes out solo to cover red carpet events and film festivals, recently interviewing stars Sydney Sweeney and Emilia Clarke.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Excuse My Grandma<\/em> purposely avoids politics\u2014though Murstein notes that if it were up to Rudnick, \u201cwe\u2019d also have a political channel, because she\u2019s so into current events. But it\u2019s not our relationship; we don\u2019t typically talk about it.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/IMG_5237_crop-A-1024x1024.jpg\" alt=\"Kim Murstein \u201918 reports from an NBC \/ Peacock media event for the &quot;PONIES&quot; limited series in January 2026\" class=\"wp-image-65013 size-full\" srcset=\"https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/IMG_5237_crop-A-1024x1024.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/IMG_5237_crop-A-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/IMG_5237_crop-A-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/IMG_5237_crop-A-768x768.jpg 768w, 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\/><figcaption>Reporting from an NBC \/ Peacock media event on the launch of the limited series &#8220;Ponies.&#8221;<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Sprinkled throughout their discussions and social media posts are Grandma Gail\u2019s \u201crules,\u201d which <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/stories\/highlights\/17925417569620926\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">number more than 80<\/a> so far\u2014covering dating, family relationships, and general life advice.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A sampling:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u201cIt\u2019s better to admit you walked through the wrong door than live the rest of your life in the wrong room.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u201cDon\u2019t think of it like he ghosted you\u2014you\u2019re just so out of his league, you left him speechless.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u201cBring side dishes to family dinner, not side eyes.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And:<em> \u201cYou\u2019ll never meet someone at a bar at 2 a.m.\u2014go home.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignwide size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"576\" src=\"https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/IMG_4867_crop_horiz-A-1024x576.jpg\" alt=\"Kim Murstein \u201918, third from left, with her Delta Gamma sisters\" class=\"wp-image-65012\" srcset=\"https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/IMG_4867_crop_horiz-A-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/IMG_4867_crop_horiz-A-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/IMG_4867_crop_horiz-A-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/IMG_4867_crop_horiz-A-1536x864.jpg 1536w, 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https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/IMG_4867_crop_horiz-A-632x356.jpg 632w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/IMG_4867_crop_horiz-A-316x178.jpg 316w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/IMG_4867_crop_horiz-A-400x225.jpg 400w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/IMG_4867_crop_horiz-A-200x113.jpg 200w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/IMG_4867_crop_horiz-A-100x56.jpg 100w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2026\/01\/IMG_4867_crop_horiz-A.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\">Murstein (third from left) with Delta Gamma sisters.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The podcast\u2019s popularity has changed the pair\u2019s dynamic a bit, Murstein observes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIn real life, she\u2019s kind of like my boss, because she\u2019s constantly telling me what to do,\u201d she says. \u201cBut with <em>Excuse My Grandma<\/em>, in a business sense and as a media company, I definitely lead that\u2014so I\u2019m telling her what to do in a lot of situations.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But Rudnick\u2014energetic, sharply funny, and often deadpan\u2014remains at the heart of the enterprise. Murstein is clearly captivated by her unvarnished feedback, impeccable style, tales of 1960s-era dating in NYC, and 60-plus-year marriage to Murstein\u2019s grandfather.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-pullquote alignwide is-style-solid-color\"><blockquote><p>Murstein is clearly captivated by Rudnick\u2019s unvarnished feedback, impeccable style, tales of 1960s-era dating in NYC, and 60-plus-year marriage to Murstein\u2019s grandfather.<\/p><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI thought she was stuck in her ways,\u201d Murstein muses about what she once saw as Rudnick\u2019s old-fashioned attitudes about life and dating. \u201cBut truly, the wealth of wisdom that the older generations have is precious.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>While the podcast\u2019s audience is overwhelmingly female, Murstein notes that its age range reflects its cross-generational appeal: almost half of listeners are over 50, and many fans have told her that the conversations, humor, conflicts, and affection remind them of relationships with their own mothers, daughters, grandmothers, or granddaughters.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s this connection between two women that really stands out, and this friendship between people 50-plus years apart,\u201d Murstein says. \u201cPeople see themselves in us.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Top: Murstein and her grandma at a Manhattan caf\u00e9. 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