{"id":32723,"date":"2024-03-08T16:24:59","date_gmt":"2024-03-08T21:24:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/?p=32723"},"modified":"2024-06-24T15:19:42","modified_gmt":"2024-06-24T19:19:42","slug":"manne-fatphobia","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/manne-fatphobia\/","title":{"rendered":"A Moral Philosopher Contemplates the Evils of &#8216;Fatphobia&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-large-font-size\">After penning two acclaimed books on misogyny, Kate Manne turns her attention to a different\u2014but related\u2014form of oppression<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>By <strong>Beth<\/strong> <strong>Saulnier<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-drop-cap\"><em>Philosopher Kate Manne\u2019s first two books\u2014<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/global.oup.com\/academic\/product\/down-girl-9780190604981?cc=us&amp;lang=en&amp;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Down Girl<\/a><em> and<\/em> <a href=\"https:\/\/www.penguinrandomhouse.com\/books\/608442\/entitled-by-kate-manne\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Entitled<\/a><em>\u2014both address the subject of misogyny. In discussing them, she was often asked how she got interested in such a grim topic.<\/em> <em>\u201cPeople wanted to know my backstory,\u201d she recalls, \u201cand I found I couldn\u2019t really tell it without talking about fatphobia.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>As Manne explains, she first encountered misogyny in adolescence\u2014as one of just three girls who integrated a formerly all-boys school in her native Australia.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-media-text alignwide has-media-on-the-right is-stacked-on-mobile\"><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\">\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>\u201cAnd the form misogyny often took was weaponized fatphobia,\u201d she says, \u201cdirected at me as a teen who was bullied and belittled on account of my size.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Fatphobia\u2014fearing, avoiding, or discriminating against people who are perceived as overweight\u2014is the subject of the latest book by Manne, an <\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/philosophy.cornell.edu\/kate-manne\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>associate professor<\/em><\/a><em> in the Sage School of Philosophy in Arts &amp; Sciences.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Titled <\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.penguinrandomhouse.com\/books\/722318\/unshrinking-by-kate-manne\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Unshrinking<\/a><em>, it interweaves Manne\u2019s personal experience with a deep dive (including studies by researchers in a variety of fields) into how society views fatness, and how that impacts people\u2019s lives.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"820\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/03\/manne-2-A-820x1024.jpg\" alt=\"Prof. Kate Manne\" class=\"wp-image-32721 size-full\" srcset=\"https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/03\/manne-2-A-820x1024.jpg 820w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/03\/manne-2-A-240x300.jpg 240w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/03\/manne-2-A-768x959.jpg 768w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/03\/manne-2-A-1230x1536.jpg 1230w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/03\/manne-2-A-1264x1580.jpg 1264w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/03\/manne-2-A-632x790.jpg 632w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/03\/manne-2-A-316x395.jpg 316w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/03\/manne-2-A-280x350.jpg 280w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/03\/manne-2-A-140x175.jpg 140w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/03\/manne-2-A-70x87.jpg 70w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/03\/manne-2-A-400x500.jpg 400w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/03\/manne-2-A-200x250.jpg 200w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/03\/manne-2-A-100x125.jpg 100w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/03\/manne-2-A.jpg 1281w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 820px) 100vw, 820px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading rkv-gutter-bottom-half\">1) Why did you opt to use the word \u201cfat\u201d throughout the book?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Many people working in this space like to treat \u201cfat\u201d not as a shameful term that should be substituted with euphemisms, but rather as a merely neutral description of some bodies\u2014much like short, tall, or thin. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We\u2019re trying to reclaim it, as people have done with words like \u201cqueer.\u201d That reflects the belief that fatness is a natural human variation, part of normal and healthy bodily diversity.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading rkv-gutter-bottom-half\">2) You write that fatphobia is a form of structural oppression. How so?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>It is not just hurting people\u2019s feelings; it is genuinely limiting their freedom and ability to access important entitlements, resources, and opportunities. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>Many people working in this space like to treat &#8216;fat&#8217; not as a shameful term that should be substituted with euphemisms, but rather as a merely neutral description of some bodies.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>In the book, I document how fatphobia limits educational opportunity, vastly curtails employment possibilities and wages, and affects access to public spaces; everything from theaters to airplane seats are not made to accommodate larger bodies.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Finally, and perhaps most importantly, fat people are hugely discriminated against in healthcare. They often do not receive adequate care that speaks to the true nature of their symptoms and treats them in ways that are compassionate and dignified.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading rkv-gutter-bottom-half\">3) There\u2019s a commonly held notion that weight is just a matter of self-control. How do you address that?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>In the short term, many people can lose a moderate amount\u20145\u201310% of their body weight\u2014through diet and exercise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-media-text alignwide is-stacked-on-mobile\"><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"750\" src=\"https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/02\/unshrinking-A.jpg\" alt=\"The cover of &quot;Unshrinking&quot;\" class=\"wp-image-32211 size-full\" srcset=\"https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/02\/unshrinking-A.jpg 500w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/02\/unshrinking-A-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/02\/unshrinking-A-263x395.jpg 263w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/02\/unshrinking-A-333x500.jpg 333w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/02\/unshrinking-A-167x250.jpg 167w, https:\/\/alumni.cornell.edu\/cornellians\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2024\/02\/unshrinking-A-83x125.jpg 83w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/figure><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\">\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But what meta-analyses of every longitudinal diet study show is that, for the vast majority, the weight comes back. Over a four-to-five-year period, between one-third and two-thirds of people will end up heavier than they started.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Researchers actually believe that dieting is an excellent predictor of weight <em>gain<\/em>, rather than of long-term weight loss. Part of it is that metabolism tends to slow markedly after losing weight, especially if it\u2019s lost dramatically.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Studies of contestants on \u201cThe Biggest Loser\u201d show that their metabolisms were 30% slower, on average, five years after the initial weight loss\u2014meaning that they had to eat less and exercise more to maintain it. And the result is, many didn\u2019t.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Even on the new, much-hyped class of weight-loss drugs, the weight comes roaring back following discontinuation. And the vast majority of patients do discontinue them, because of side effects, cost, heath risks, or simply not wanting to be on them long term.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading rkv-gutter-bottom-half\">4) Could you talk about the relationship between fatness and poor health?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>We need to tell a much more nuanced story than just that fatness is deadly, which in many cases is demonstrably false. Epidemiological research has shown that the relationship looks like a U-shaped curve, with people who are \u201coverweight\u201d having the <em>lowest<\/em> mortality of any weight category.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes, there are worse health outcomes correlated with being very heavy. But is that correlation, or causation? It\u2019s hard to know, because people in very high weight categories get worse care or avoid it altogether; they\u2019re subject to the stress of stigma and to weight cycling from dieting; they may not have the means to exercise, because they\u2019re belittled when they do so.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And there are many fat people who are healthy, including metabolically healthy\u2014and many thin people who, unfortunately, are not healthy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading rkv-gutter-bottom-half\">5) You make a connection between fatphobia and racism. Could you talk about that?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Here I\u2019m drawing on brilliant work by the sociologist <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sabrinastrings.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Sabrina Strings<\/a>, who has shown that while fatphobia was never completely absent from human history, it wasn\u2019t systemic until the mid-18th century.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>We need to tell a much more nuanced story than just that fatness is deadly, which in many cases is demonstrably false.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>In that era, racist pseudoscientists looked for a way to distinguish white bodies from the Black bodies who were being enslaved so brutally in the burgeoning transatlantic slave trade, and drew an association between fatness and Blackness. Fatness came to be derogated shortly thereafter, and fatphobia really took off. So it\u2019s a recent form of prejudice.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And for anyone wondering, there were fat bodies in all of human history; just think of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.britannica.com\/topic\/Venus-of-Willendorf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Venus of Willendorf<\/a>, the statuette of a fat woman from Paleolithic times. Historical evidence from paintings and early photographs show that fat bodies are nothing new.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading rkv-gutter-bottom-half\">6) Has the book struck a chord with readers?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>People have shared their stories in ways that I find heartening and inspiring; many readers have said that they felt empowered by it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I just heard from a reader who said she, as a fat woman of color, had felt able to pose nude for a life drawing class, where previously there had only been white, thin models. 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